{"id":312,"date":"2024-12-02T19:16:42","date_gmt":"2024-12-02T19:16:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/?p=312"},"modified":"2024-12-02T19:16:47","modified_gmt":"2024-12-02T19:16:47","slug":"the-guide-to-buying-a-cheap-laptop-in-current_year","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/?p=312","title":{"rendered":"The Guide to buying a cheap laptop in $CURRENT_YEAR"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s relatively common for me to be in a chat room of some sort and for someone to ask:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Anybody know any good, cheap laptops?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>&#8211; Someone, every 3-4 months<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s a hobby of mine to find people the best laptop for the best price, depending on their needs. The new laptop industry is, by and large, a scam designed to sell planned-obsolete products that will break after a couple years in a scheme to make customers buy new ones ad nauseam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So: This is intended to be a living document that I&#8217;ll update every time I get asked this question. What is the best laptop for the best price in 2024, in the United States*, <em>in my humble opinion<\/em>**?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">*I have no clue about other markets.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">**Based on years of personal research and keeping up with the industry.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">December 2024<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The best choice is the <strong>HP Elitebook 845 G9<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-1024x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-313\" style=\"width:500px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-1536x1536.png 1536w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image.png 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Source: Some random eBay listing<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The EliteBook 845 G9 can currently be had for <strong>roughly $350-$400<\/strong> on eBay. A Ryzen 5 6650U unit can be had for $350 shipped at the time of writing (December 2, 2024), while the beefier Ryzen 7 6850U unit can be had for $376 shipped.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Justification<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tried not to bury the lede here, but it&#8217;s worth discussing why <em>exactly<\/em> I chose this machine, in some amount of detail.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First: As aforementioned, the new laptop market is largely a scam. The vast majority of machines produced today are designed to fail or run out of useful life well before they should.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Today, December 2, 2024, is Cyber Monday at Best Buy. So even on the best day for buying consumer grade electronics of the year, let&#8217;s see how these machines stack up. All of these listings were taken from the front page when I searched for &#8220;laptop&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"722\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-6-1024x722.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-319\" style=\"width:590px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-6-1024x722.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-6-300x211.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-6-768x541.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-6.png 1254w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Dells current flagship, the XPS 13 Plus. Take one look at this thing and tell me it won&#8217;t break within three years or less.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"739\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-2-1024x739.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-315\" style=\"width:620px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-2-1024x739.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-2-300x217.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-2-768x554.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-2.png 1233w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>HPs current generic entry-level model, on sale for Cyber Monday. While this price looks appealing at first, the computer will break within one year. I personally serviced one of these with a screen that broke at random while in a students backpack 6 months after purchase. After I replaced the screen, the laptop permanently bricked itself.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"724\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-3-1024x724.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-316\" style=\"width:646px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-3-1024x724.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-3-300x212.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-3-768x543.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-3.png 1259w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Any machine sold with 4GB of RAM today is dead on arrival. This laptops existence is a scam which coincidentally emits massive amounts of pollution.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"722\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-4-1024x722.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-317\" style=\"width:592px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-4-1024x722.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-4-300x211.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-4-768x541.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-4.png 1254w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Once again, an appealing price is defeated by the cheap, plasticky build quality of the Dell Inspiron line&#8211; and this machine would be $750 if I weren&#8217;t writing on this specific day.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While many more listings exist, all of them are poor at best. Their common denominator is that <em>they are all built for the consumer market<\/em>. All consumer-grade laptops are designed with planned obsolescence in mind&#8211; while some of them look pretty on the surface, none of them will last.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Choose Business Class<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The secret that laptop manufacturers don&#8217;t want you to know is twofold:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Business class laptops are built to a higher standard, <\/strong>and<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>IT Departments at companies usually replace their machines every three years.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first fact is because business-class machines actually need to work, even in abusive scenarios. If <a href=\"https:\/\/ludic.mataroa.blog\/blog\/synergy-greg\/\">Synergy Greg<\/a>, thought leader and all-around Business Man, finds out that his laptop doesn&#8217;t turn on after he threw it like a baseball into the back seat of his car, or jammed it into a 1\/4&#8243; opening between the seats of his first-class airline flight, or spilled coffee on it, you can bet his IT department will hear something like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">MY TIME IS WORTH $100 AN HOUR(*)!! I AM LOSING THIS TIME TO YOUR INCOMPETENCE!! ARE YOU IDIOTS TELLING ME YOU CAN&#8217;T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MY COMPUTER TO TURN ON AFTER I SMASHED A CAR WINDOW WITH IT??<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>* Synergy Greg makes $200,000 a year. With some quick mental math, that comes out to $96 an hour.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second fact is because IT departments always feel the need to upgrade their computers, even if they&#8217;re working perfectly fine, because we are the only industry that needs to entirely replace their equipment every couple of years for fairly arbitrary reasons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Taken together, <strong>this means that used business-class laptops can be found exceptionally cheap on eBay.<em> <\/em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">You just have to know what to look for.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why this laptop?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The HP EliteBook 845 G9 is the current top choice based its durability, upgradability, and price-to-performance ratio.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The AMD Ryzen 6000 series present in this model was the first to integrate AMDs high-powered RDNA2 graphics system directly into a laptop CPU. RDNA2 is better known for powering the Xbox Series X, PS5, and Steam Deck. As such, it is reasonable to play some mid-range games on this chip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unlike almost every other laptop HP makes, the EliteBook is built to last, made of high-quality materials that can take a beating. The keyboard is about as high-quality as you can get these days, and the trackpad is of very high quality. I have personally handled one of these machines and can speak to their quality in both respects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unlike almost every other manufacturer, HP continues to only use socketed, easy-to-upgrade RAM. With RAM usage continuing to dramatically increase from ever-more-bloated and wasteful applications, having the ability to easily add more memory is vital to the long-term use of a personal computer. <strong>Even if you&#8217;re terrified of screwdrivers<\/strong>, a technician who looks at your computer 4-5 years down the line will thank you for this purchasing decision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lenovo is beginning to backtrack on this with their latest laptops, making RAM all socketed again, but it will be a few years before those machines make their way into our used domain, taking them out of the running for now.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Runners-Up<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>If you&#8217;re strapped for cash, you can save some and acquire the previous-generation <strong>HP EliteBook 845 G8<\/strong>, available for <strong>$275-$350<\/strong> currently. While you&#8217;ll lose a lot of graphics performance, you&#8217;ll gain the TrackPoint in the middle of the keyboard, which was axed on the G9.\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>I&#8217;ve personally recommended this machine to a university student, and they love it!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"657\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7-1024x657.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-320\" style=\"width:500px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7-1024x657.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7-768x493.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7-1536x986.png 1536w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-7.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>If you want an ultra-light, ultra-portable machine that won&#8217;t break so easily, purchase a <strong>ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 5 (2020) for $250<\/strong>, or <strong>Gen 6 (2021) for $350<\/strong>. The RAM in these is non-upgradable, so <strong>be certain to purchase a 16GB model.<\/strong> \n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>8GB of RAM today is not useful&#8211; even Apple has admitted this as they <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/10\/30\/24282981\/apple-macbook-air-m2-m3-16gb-ram-minimum-price-unchanged\">upgraded all of their Macs to 16GB last month<\/a>. <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>I am typing this article on an X1 Yoga Gen 5 I purchased for $250, as I wanted a tablet PC to go alongside my main computer. I&#8217;m pretty satisfied with it, given that it doesn&#8217;t need to be very powerful!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Note that purchasing either of these trades an enormous amount of performance for the tablet PC chassis at the same price point.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-8-1024x576.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-321\" style=\"width:500px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-8-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-8-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-8-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-8.png 1060w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>If you want high gaming performance and have a little extra cash on hand, the <strong>Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 with AMD Radeon 6700S graphics <\/strong>can be had for<strong> $650.<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>This isn&#8217;t a business class laptop, but is known for being a unicorn in terms of price-to-performance ratio, upgradable RAM, and high performance within a small chassis.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>It is also still recent, being released in 2022.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Later generations axed all three of those things. As far as I know, there are no such unicorns today.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"489\" height=\"339\" src=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-9.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-322\" style=\"width:500px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-9.png 489w, https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-9-300x208.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 489px) 100vw, 489px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I&#8217;ve linked you this document, odds are good I&#8217;ve either just updated it for you, or will imminently update it for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve helped probably a dozen people pick out laptops based on these criteria over the last four years, and every one of them is satisfied with their purchase. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This article is just a way of collecting my thoughts into one long-term place. Talk to me and I&#8217;ll tailor my suggestions to your needs!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guide with a Capital G.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-312","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/312","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=312"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/312\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=312"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=312"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nocoffei.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=312"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}